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restore the tax rates to bill clinton's tax rates. and we had a pretty good economy. >> that's $350 billion. >> we had a pretty darn good economy when we were playing bill clinton's tax rates and then it cuts defenses we haven't done in 30 years and entitlement programs. >> there's a few on the left that admit that going back to the clinton tax rates is not just for people who are 250, it's for everyone. >> i agree with that. >> $200 billion in the middle class from the bush tax cuts and $100 billion from the payroll tax cut -- >> it would do a lot. >> we should take our medicine, we should do it. >> that's where i think you're right. we have to -- any politician who says democrat or republican, we're going to get out of this without suffering some pain -- >> that's what we're hearing from paul krugman who says any democrat that goes along with the simpson/bowles. >> only for one reason, you shouldn't raise the -- you shouldn't raise the eligibility for medicare to 67. that makes no sense at all. but otherwise -- >> why doesn't it? >>
restore the tax rates to bill clinton's tax rates. and we had a pretty good economy. >> that's $350 billion. >> we had a pretty darn good economy when we were playing bill clinton's tax rates and then it cuts defenses we haven't done in 30 years and entitlement programs. >> there's a few on the left that admit that going back to the clinton tax rates is not just for people who are 250, it's for everyone. >> i agree with that. >> $200 billion in the middle class...
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the problem is worse than it appears even looking at the chart. >> bush/clinton you can get the number and it's 5.3. >> 5.3 or 4.9, if you take out this recession. you don't want to take it all out, maybe take out the magnitude of it. where we need to go back to is a debate for the fed and the markets as well. >> i wish you had a participation rate that was adjusted for demos and just so we could compare apples and apples. >> i'm working on that. the trouble is, joe, it's hard to work with government data. it's really become -- >> not that hard. watch what they're able to do today. >> i've been working on this. i'm trying to find how much of this is old folks retiring, seniors -- old folks is the wrong word these days and kids dropping out going to school. there's a piece of each one. >> i wish we could have that standardized number for what the participation rate is in, i don't know what normal is, and so then we could figure out exactly where we are and what it feels like to people. because if we went back to the participation rate where we were five years ago we're at 11%, what it f
the problem is worse than it appears even looking at the chart. >> bush/clinton you can get the number and it's 5.3. >> 5.3 or 4.9, if you take out this recession. you don't want to take it all out, maybe take out the magnitude of it. where we need to go back to is a debate for the fed and the markets as well. >> i wish you had a participation rate that was adjusted for demos and just so we could compare apples and apples. >> i'm working on that. the trouble is, joe,...
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say that, bill clinton has not said that before. >> i could have done better. you could have done better. i think anybody who wasn't ideologically driven could have done better. >> what would you have done? >> sorry? >> the meaningful steps. >> what wouldn't you have done. >> we need jobs so therefore -- and we need exports so therefore the first thing you do is have the nlrb attack the number one exporter in the country on really preposterous grounds, then you in effect start yelling at business and threatening business and then you get on the tv and talk about las vegas and all of a sudden the hotel business dies. i mean, the answer is that we need leadership, not criticism. we need encouragement not discouragement and until that scenario changes i think the united states is quote/unquote, i hate to use this word, in a malaise. >> is that a function of new laws and legislation or a function of rhetoric? >> first of all it's both, okay, in other words, we hope that it's new laws. the reality is, it isn't new laws. it's using the executive branch to legislate b
say that, bill clinton has not said that before. >> i could have done better. you could have done better. i think anybody who wasn't ideologically driven could have done better. >> what would you have done? >> sorry? >> the meaningful steps. >> what wouldn't you have done. >> we need jobs so therefore -- and we need exports so therefore the first thing you do is have the nlrb attack the number one exporter in the country on really preposterous grounds, then...
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but second -- >> it reminded me of hillary clinton four years ago. i had forgotten that i thought hillary clinton won in all those debates. i picked up a lot of the same mannerisms and that was before he was in the office. and could say i'm not used to -- >> he apparently kicked john kerry's butt in all the preparation. well, i've got a plan-apparently he just wasted him. they had high expectations because he kicked john kerry's -- the other thing, john, i read a couple places that it was a drag preparing for this. the next between weeks are going to be -- when's the next debate? >> vice presidential debate is next thursday. and two weeks from now the presidential. >> next two weeks will be a complete drag. >> but one other point about the substance. because we still don't know how swing voters, the people who are still -- how they view the two side by side. it is possible in a country as polarized as ours to really get your side going and think you really kicked the other guy's behind and find that it doesn't move the needle all that much. and we ha
but second -- >> it reminded me of hillary clinton four years ago. i had forgotten that i thought hillary clinton won in all those debates. i picked up a lot of the same mannerisms and that was before he was in the office. and could say i'm not used to -- >> he apparently kicked john kerry's butt in all the preparation. well, i've got a plan-apparently he just wasted him. they had high expectations because he kicked john kerry's -- the other thing, john, i read a couple places that...
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clinton called in. >> george bush was sitting next to michael jordan or near michael jordan. >> and 41 was there, too. >> yeah, my favorite was the tweet. they said, whatever, europe, go solve your debt crisis. >> yeah. >> that's kind of the sentiment. >> jack had talked earlier about the only thing that could get him away from football would have been the ryder cup. he saw probably every swing, too. >> i've had experiences myself with puts and stuff. and heart democratic break. so you have to feel like -- >> watching the reaction from both teams towards the end, they caught a couple in the "wall street journal." >> phil -- >> was that saturday? >> no, this was 17 after he would have -- justin rose hit that long put. phil can chip from behind the green on 17 and that would have won. that was -- >> tiger had one that almost went in. >> so that wasn't heartbreak there, he didn't know justin rose was going to hit a 30 footer and then win 18 either. what happened in homeland? explain to our viewers what it is. >> you watch it, too. >> i do. >> it's on show "time." do you want to talk about
clinton called in. >> george bush was sitting next to michael jordan or near michael jordan. >> and 41 was there, too. >> yeah, my favorite was the tweet. they said, whatever, europe, go solve your debt crisis. >> yeah. >> that's kind of the sentiment. >> jack had talked earlier about the only thing that could get him away from football would have been the ryder cup. he saw probably every swing, too. >> i've had experiences myself with puts and stuff....